I sat down recently to do a Skype videochat interview with Rev. Dr. Bob Cornwall, from Central Woodward Christian Church in Troy, Michigan. Bob has been a conversation partner for me over the last several years, and one of the first people I even knew in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). Bob has been for me — and for many others — a "bridge" person, engaging in the emerging missional church movement and conversation as a deeply rooted, fairly traditional pastor of an average-sized congregation affiliated with a mainline denomination. He's got a foot in both worlds, and he's very conversant with both audiences.
Bob is someone I appreciate very much, and I'm grateful to call him a friend and a co-conspirator in the missional renaissance that's taking ahold of the Disciples of Christ. I was honored to help organize the "Missional Church" track at the Disciples' General Assembly this summer in Nashville, and Bob was one of the practitioners and discussion facilitators who made that time really rich and rewarding for everyone who participated. (Thanks to Dale Lature who captured much of the missional sessions from General Assembly on video, including Bob Cornwall's table discussion on the second day!)
In this conversation, Bob and I discuss Tony Jones' new book The Church Is Flat, and Bob unpacks some of the history of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and how it relates to this missional moment we are living in right now.
Without further adieu, here's my conversation with Bob Cornwall — featuring my snazzy new intro title/music and rolling credits at the end (let me know what you think by leaving a comment below!):
Cross-posted from Knightopia.com
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Tags: Bob, CCDOC, Central, Cornwall, Jones, Tony, Woodward, conversations, flatchurch, missional
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Comment by Nick Larson on November 18, 2011 at 9:20am I hear you Brian, but I also am not sure I agree. Sure timing is different than that treasured publication that you would come less frequent.
For me they are different in that instead of one article from one point of view you have meme-type atmosphere with blogging where a theme makes it way around a group of bloggers, where the idea is chewed on by the community rather than one author of a publication.
But they are the same in that you build a set of readers based on what you publish and who hands it to you. The publications of the early S-C movement built it upon their ideas, not an inherent audience, just like blogging. It also seems to me that blogging more than any other form of communication today responds to the times. They are chewing on the pressing theological and religious issues of their time, just as blogging does today. I think bloggers are leading the church forward more and more, just like the S-C publishers started to transform the church in their day.
I don't think the bloggers can carry the same weight as the S-C publishers. The reasons have less to do with quality than differences in technological advancement. Imagine living in the frontier wilderness. That monthly (?) periodical would be a God-send. It would be re-read, shared, and discussed with others. The nature of blogging is that it is fast and replaced with a new post the next day, or even hours later. That said, the same spirit applies to today's bloggers IMO. Now even the finest of blogs is merely one of many that we read quickly each day.
Comment by Nick Larson on November 17, 2011 at 11:59pm I think that's absolutely true, Bob. I think bloggers do carry a lot of water. For me the social media has largely replaced the concept of a big tent church meeting. It's where ideas are shared, formed, and collaborated on.
Comment by Robert Cornwall on November 17, 2011 at 4:33pm Brian and Nick, thank you for the comments.
As to Nick's point about publishing. You're right. The journals of the early leaders did guide the agenda. And, yes, I think the various blogs and similar venues are similar. As a blogger who participates in the conversation, I wonder whether our voices carry similar weight as these earlier editors? That might be worth thinking about!!
Comment by Nick Larson on November 17, 2011 at 3:47pm Thanks both of you for the conversation! Another thing that Bob didn't really touch on but I think harkens back to the same idea as the early days of the stone-campbell movement is that the voices that were speaking did it largely through publishing. I look at blogs and other self started venues for this conversations as 21st century versions of that same concept.
It's certainly an interesting questions Bob raises at the end with saying is there too much of this that is personality driven? I'm going to go consider that some more...
Do yourselves a favor and pour a cup of coffee/wine/sparkling water and watch this entire interview.
First statement - I've been looking forward to hearing Bob's vocal delivery and facial expressions. So much humanity is lost on with words on a screen. I've come to view him as a friend I want to hear from daily. Do yourself a favor and visit his blog. He is a gracious host allowing a wide range of views. He is hospitable when one voices criticism as well.
- The last 3 minutes or so hit on something very important. How much of the success of the emergent/missional movement is d/t charismatic personalities? Our tradition started with charismatic leaders, especially Alexander Campbell. It struggled mightily when he died. By the time the 3rd generation came to power, the movement looked quite different.
- Bob's training as a historian is helpful when looking at the contemporary landscape. He helps to keep things in perspective.
- Lastly, he touched on something that concerns me in much emergent talk - agism. A 90 year old who wants to sing Onward Christian Soldiers matters just as much as the 22 year old who wants whatever emergent folks listen to. We must respect our elders. It is only proper.
Comment by Robert Cornwall on November 17, 2011 at 2:24pm Thanks Steve for the opportunity to discuss the missional context!!
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